@KimberlyHirsh I personally quite enjoy a sudden E-minor chord šµwith abrupt lighting change right before I get my stack referenceāthe black glue, the ümläüts, the whole š thing. ā¤ļø
@Burk shrewd manipulation of the timeline is my guess. Iām staring bewitched for the last five minutes and itās just a picture.
@JohnPhilpin thx for posting about this. The most tragically cinematic climate disaster Iāve ever been alive to witness. LV has an affectionate nickname, āninth islandā, so it really hits home here.
@campegg One more thingā¦itās not that the author is incorrect about all of the unnecessary suffering caused by this state of affairs, but in every case improvements came exclusively by way of a better shared language among the speakers.
@campegg Me again. I think Iāve muddied things up with my last reply more than made anything clearer. Let me give it another go.
Apart from the mechanical issues you mention, animals also do not posses the ability to use language propositionally. We understand that they are intelligent through different means than question and answer sessions. So when I say ādetected and acceptedā Iām speaking of human intelligence.
And, finally, longwindedly, I agree with the authorās effort to alert the public to the dangers of assuming machines which appear to be using language actually are using language. Much peril there awaits.
@campegg yeah, I think I agree too! š¤£š¤
Many layers and mirrors and trapdoorsā¦the definition processā¦but, yes, both intelligence and language agency of some sort can be ascribed to many creatures not only some bigger mammals. Of course Iām willing to stretch the meaning of language to include other phenomena we would normally consider completely out of domain. DNA is a sort of language to describe how to build stuff, in this view.
But I find it inescapable that for any intelligence to be detected and accepted it must come through the medium of language.
@campegg Language is not sufficient, but necessary, say I, to apprehend intelligence.
@toddgrotenhuis I quite like this understanding. Thx for posting! ā¤ļø š“ š“āā ļø
@manton not to bang the drum too loud on this but it is another example of language games being used to deceive.
āBy āprivateā we mean ānot privateā.ā
What could private mean if not invisible and inaccessible to any entity apart from the sender and the specified trusted target recipients?
It is often so hard to see how ludicrously flippant and self-serving these language games are because they are so pervasive and so laborious to unwind. I almost nodded off writing this replyā¦
@jsonbecker Iām so glad it turns out Iām not a self destructive incompetent with unfounded paranoid attitudes towards this profession and its practitioners. The more money I was making the more expensive the treatments became, as I would see dentists in āmy planā or some other herding algorithm which paired means with need rather than the other way around.